IMO, that's evident in the Z7 II's price. If you can't, you buy a Tamron 28-75 F2.8 at $650. What else should they consider? "I hope you know how to use this camera, because my 2M pictures taken with my A9 tell a different story and I shoot all the time wide open with fast glass. If you've gotten your gear through one of my links or helped otherwise, you're family. I was thinking that this was the greatest thing since dual card slots! At least the video showed each camera's realtime tracking in action so it was more useful. Especially with 0.95 lenses in daytime. A new countdown clock on Nikon's website reveals that the Z6 II and Z7 II will both be revealed on October 14 at 12am ET / 5am BST / 2pm AEST. New added second SD card slot, along with one XQD slot from the Z7. One could say 90% of the photographers never get to that point, but one could also argue for 90% of the photographers the equipment does make a difference. :(, @CosmicLuxthat I agree... their closed mount ensures trouble with third party manufacturers :(. expensive z-mount lenses that have ancient stepper motors are a step down from nikon dslr lenses, as the dpr review indicates. Nikon D850 vs Z7 II. To experience the true potential of the Z 7’s 45.7 effective megapixels and the high resolution of the NIKKOR Z lenses, extremely sharp focus is essential. Gimmick Picture Controls: Dream, Morning, Pop, Sunday, Somber, Dramatic, Silence, Bleached, Melancholic, Pure, Denim, Toy, Sepia, Blue, Red, Pink, Charcoal, Graphite, Binary and Carbon. For now, the app is in beta and limited to a handful of Samsung Galaxy smartphones, but as development continues, it's safe to assume support for other Android devices is on the way. I totally disagree with you. The Z5 is better in terms of the price, but Z6II has much better specs and features. raw files don't have any color, so that's not a camera problem. I'll be sticking with my A7III for now. Home Different compression ratios (quality settings) selectable at all sizes except 3,840 × 2,160, 1,920 × 1,080 119.88p/100p, and 1,920 × 1,080 slow-mo, where quality is fixed at high. Comment: The absence of the possibility of adding a true vertical grip is an absolute show stopper for many photographers who frequently use their cameras in the vertical position. In-camera sensor-shift image-stabilization rated for 5 stops improvement. Red Neon Roof, October 2018, 6:41 P.M. Nikon Z7, Nikon 24-70mm f/4 Z at 44mm, f/4 hand-held at 1/10 at ISO 200, Perfectly Clear v3.6. As the name implies, this is a refinement rather than a reimagining; so while the updates may not knock your socks off, we really enjoyed the original Z7 and this new model builds on an already successful formula. (I will let him decide whether to share it as I don’t feel it’s my place to make that decision for him). LOL. We'd expect good video quality, but hardcore video shooters should set their sights on the Z6 II and its oversampled 4K video which should offer much better fine detail. The D850 has the AF of the D5, that was until a few months ago by far the best focusing camera in history. I guess we need to re-start from the basics here. Not too shabby. Camera companies need money, they run a business. bigger. As we continue to test Nikon's update of its multimedia full-framer, we've added more of our findings so far on image quality, dynamic range and video quality. Flash system fully compatible with Nikon's existing DSLR flashes, with both optical and radio remote control. The Z7 II still has a 45.7MP full-frame BSI sensor, but it's now backed up by dual processors compared to the single processor in its predecessor. And when the subjects were moving, I had much more waste than with the D850. I myself have been loudly unhappy about some of their decisions. @bernardlang You are joking, right? :-). Orange Triangle, October 2018, 4:03 P.M. Nikon Z7, Nikon 24-70mm f/4 Z at 70mm, f/5.6 at 1/500 at Auto ISO 64, Perfectly Clear v3.6. Amazing - love the ISO's of 64 and even a sort-of ISO 32.Can only imagine how good this imaging device is. You shoot portraits while subjects run and jump around? Thanks! Kind of the same with other specs like more megapixels, an extra half stop of DR, etc. Nikon's Z system hasn't gone anywhere except to be offshored for low-cost manufacture, and therefore has fallen more than two years behind. Being a portrait guy when the reviews start stating that the eye tracking is as good as Sony I'll get serious about Nikon mirrorless. Now they just hit like little girls!Especially now, we have a very competitive market and if you only make GOOD cameras for too long you might end up like Pentax.I supported (bought) Nikon for over 40 years because I felt they gave me a top product for my money. The cameras are scheduled to arrive towards the end of the year. Many things, like advance mode, display brightness and crop modes still need to be reset manually as you change these modes. It is good to see Nikon keeping up in the field, the Canon R5 is really nice and the a7rV will likely be very close to the R5 in most ways and better in some ways. I am not sure I would call that benchmark/reference performance for action photography. I believe that Nikon does not have enough optics for the Z mount(also from Tamron, Sigma, etc.). That's pretty sad. - abandon of a mount (M), lack of migration path: C at risk with APS-C- better lenses elsewhere: S at risk- global shutter: C and N at risk- web marketing FUD about company future: Nikon at risk. Nikon still sells many of these lenses new today, and they work much better on any FX DSLR like a D750. XQD slot also works with CFexpress type B cards. I always thought only two was ridiculous. Perhaps a few more IBIS stops? But hey, it is nowaday way to market things to people. The Z6 and Z7 Mark I came out in 2018. And I am not talking about colors that are essentially a body side issue. Palms and Storm, 6:21 PM, 29 November 2018. I mean when was the last time someone looked at an image and said, wow, that must have been shot in 14 bit RAW, or, dang, that image is lacking, must have been shot only in 12 bit RAW? Fuji's XT mount system blows away all other APS-C systems, except for a slight edge to Sony for autofocus power, and even that isn't a very big difference anymore; if you've tested the new X-T4 or this X-S10 and the Soy A6600, it is apparent. These mirrorless improvements mainly focus on enhanced speed, with now on sensor phase detection AF points and an entirely new processor. Very good lens! (Image credit: Nikon) Has anyone seen anything about clean output on the LCD? How much would it cost to improve rear screen movement capability? Stop stirring Things up. Anyone interested in the best 35mm lenses ever designed? Take a closer look. The Nikon Z7 II, along with its faster and less expensive sister the Nikon Z6 II, has the same great Nikon feel and handling we've all come to love — except now in mirrorless form! The best thing is the price. What follows are the headiest products of 2020, the ones photographers really want. I've never shot a digital camera with better color rendition for all subjects. These lenses have to get closer to the sensor, and are the original mirrorless lenses. 5.5 FPS, continuous high (5 FPS in 14-bit raw) with tracking exposure for each frame. Natural History Museum's Wildlife Photographer of the Year has selected 25 photos for its People's Choice Award. But I haven't seen any comparison demonstrating that it is. The Z 7II is a full frame, 45.7 MP camera with dual processors, 4K UHD video at 60p and two card slots. The biggest help is when you use any of these links when you get anything. It has a 55mm inner diameter, larger than the old F mount, and has a flange focal distance of only 16.00mm. Earlier this week we published our samples from the new Sigma 65mm F2 DG DN when mounted on a Sony body. It doesn’t let more light in than a good old 50mm f1.4. Search Home Manual brightness control only. @ionbarOf course, so it would still take years before Nikon would eventually decide to open its system to Sigma or Tamron. It handles just like Fujifilm's APS-C cameras and outperforms full-frame at the same time. PS the first Z6 already has fully competitive eye af via firmware update. Worse, the finder brightness varies all over the place as you vary the apertures if you're using adapted manual-focus lenses. So that would mean that 14-bit is only available with drivemode set to Hi or slower. The new FTZ adapter autofocuses only with Nikon's newest lenses with a built-in AF motor (AF-S and AF-P). I will not shoot Sony until they fix their trash ergonomics and I am too invested in Nikon Glass to think Cannon. Range: LV -3 ~ +19 with f/2 lens and center AF point; LV -4 ~ +19 with "low light AF.". Inside the Scary House, October 2018, 3:01 P.M. Nikon Z7, Nikon 24-70mm f/4 Z at 24mm, f/16 hand-held at 1 second at ISO 200, Perfectly Clear v3.6. Most of the naysayers are not photographers. So if there is one company to worry about it’s Canon IMHO. It takes a second hand to press. We supposed that the Z6&Z7s will have same sensors as the first gen - was the confirmation of this a surprise? (I mean I know they want to sell you the GP-1a unit for $280 but come on. Sony has brought tremendous value to the photography market. It's always possible to find an application at which a camera is better. As an inveterate M43 shooter, I can tell you that he didn't even try. Haha what? Several of your statements are misleading:1. The Nikon Z7 II has essentially the same design as the original. AF is a complex and multi-facet topic. I suspect that Sony's usability is an issue for a lot more pros than Nikon's STM lens motors. Thom Hogan's Complete Guide to the Z6 and Z7 Third Edition manages to not only fully describe every feature of the Nikon Z6 and Z7 running firmware 1.x, 2.x, or 3.x in clear, easy-to-understand language, but also provides you rich, technical background for many of the critical issues that confront digital camera users. The canon eos r has excellent and expensive lenses. Remember that shot wide-open at f/4 that only some things are in focus. I have no complaints about how they spec'ed it. Spent 10 minutes b!tching about the viewfinder and almost no time actually shooting it, except to bemoan its relative lack of "blown out backgrounds" which is what he calls bokeh. Gallery The lenses for the D850 cost much much less than the same lenses in the Z mount.From experience I very much doubt that the new Z lenses are better lenses, or more useful, or will last longer/as long etc, and I would have thought that like Apple and their machinery we would get the equivalent for the same money, or less, instead of the new system mount being the means by which Nikon hoick their prices and hoick on their prospective buyers, and at a time when already the cost of lenses is rising, dare I say it, like Covid victims, exponentially. . I love walking around with my Z6 but when I put on my 70-200mm it feels very awkward. Kidding aside, this camera (as well as the previous version) is definitely on my short list. will it automatically close down the diaphragm, with the little lever on the DSLR models like my Nikon D5500?) If the product performs well, customers don't care if it's single or dual processor. It is the mirrorless D850 and much more. Great if it works for you and if you don’t mind checking your battery level when you need to use a fast fps on quickly moving subjects. I had a lot of prejudices about Sony before using it in a professional situation. I didn't take the Nikon Z7 and switched to Sony. Just shot a product video on my X-T4 because the Z system doesn't have a proper macro lens like my XF 60/2.4 or XF 80/2.8. For what? Why can't they make a grip with vents and a fan that attach to a body with matching (well weather sealed, until you put on the grip) ports for the fan to circulate air through the body? With my Z6 it's impossible to check the corners without taking a photo and previewing it. this is a Nikon camera forum, why would they be out here complaining? I mean that's how I do it now, but sometimes it throws a fit for no reason and won't connect. It remains one of the only cameras on the market that provides a low native ISO of 64”. Combining the advantages of a lightweight mirrorless design, a revolutionary new full-frame lens mount and matched lenses, a Nikon designed 45.7MP image sensor and seamless integration with Nikon’s DSLR system—including the Nikkor lenses you love—the Z 7 is a camera unlike any before it. Odd that their comments do make sense for objective viewers. Yess Magnar, unbelievable I think. This year, despite the disruption, plenty of amazing cameras, lenses, accessories and other products came through our doors. @MIlC man:« Raw files don’t have any color... ». Having owned and used extensively an a7rIV, it's far from being as good as some Sony fans would have you believe (the a9II on the other hand really is outstanding, not perfect by any means, but outstanding). Personally, I miss the 16-35 2.8 lens in the Nikon Z. Sony is probably the best choice at the moment. I'm a tad disappointed they didn't opt for the 5.6mp EVF but am well aware the current one doesn't have lag issues other brands tend to and is well respected for the optics in front of it by comparison. Full Frame Autofocus. Wasn't it Ansel Adams that said the most important part of the camera was the 12 inches behind it? There is a cost supporting the old camera (replacement parts) There is a cost to supporting the new camera (factory downtime, factory changes, create repair manuals, worker training). An EH-7P Charging AC Adapter is included, which can power the camera directly or charge the newest EN-EL15c or older EN-EL15b batteries in-camera. For €3000 you will get a very good camera. I assume that you think that the vertical grips of corresponding Sony or Canon cameras are just as useless? i will not buy it. by overprising its coordinators, it removes old and faithful customers in a future daying exports market. The Nikon Z7 is an excellent camera, one of my favourites in recent times, and it produces high-quality images. bigger or camera-original ©  file. I am moving from Sony as I dislike the grip and lack of space between lens and grip enough to move on. But there is no impact if they work on different tasks (one for AF, one for image processing for example), 4. @Paul_Takes_Photos, yes, Nikon will survive as a company. TL;DR: Nikon has a lot more distortion and does not beat Canon for sharpness. The advantage of the Z7 over the D850 is focus area coverage and number of focus points, but if you're looking to do tracking, stick with the D850 or at least wait a while and see what the reviews are and maybe try one out before committing. Nikon does not seal its boxes in any way, so never buy at retail or any other source not on my personally approved list since you'll have no way of knowing if you're missing accessories, getting a defective, damaged, returned, non-USA, store demo or used camera — and all of my personally approved sources allow for 100% cash-back returns for at least 30 days if you don't love your new camera. There is a cost to retool the factory to make this. Manuals for Nikon products/ 2018/02/15/ Ver.2.0.0 Manual Viewer 2 The Nikon Manual Viewer 2 app for iPhones, iPads, iPod touch, and Android devices can be used to download the manuals for Nikon digital SLR cameras and view them offline. So long as you're not in direct sunlight, it has automatic brightness control and is superbly legible in any light from daytime outdoors down to starlight: It's almost invisible in direct sunlight because it can't get bright enough. The SB300 is bigger, junkier, lower powered and takes too long to recycle from it's pathetic AAA cells, and the SB500 is too darn big and costs more than twice as much for about the same performance as the tiny SB400. The Nikon Z6, which was announced in 2018, launched the full frame Z-mount system along with its sibling, the Z7. Probably not... u want fully articulating screen so u can vlog with ur 45yr old 200mm f/4 lens? Fujifilm's 3.00 firmware update adds a new Pixel Shift Mult-Shot mode to its GFX 100 camera that works alongside a new Pixel Shift Combiner program to output 400MP Raw images made up from 16 individual still images. I believe that is what these were always meant to be. Amazing lens. Grip looks big because camera is smaller. At this time the R5 was my 1st pick awaiting it till early next year. Not every one has an issue. Of course you can magnify the live image in the finder or rear LCD, and add focus peaking at MENU >. It bases the finder brightness only on the light hitting the sensor, so it changes depending on the direction you're pointing the camera (even on playback), and varies wildly when using adapted manual focus lenses, even Nikon's own manual-focus lenses on the FTZ. ", @bernardlang - "Raw files contain numbers that do represent color information. There is a marketing cost to publicize the new camera. that's because modern milc designs take advantage of better engineering and better production capabilities. It’s probably a real T1.2 or 1.3 design with an actually higher resolution than the f1.8. Vertical Metal Focal Plane and silent electronic shutter. agreed, nikon users feel lucky because they don't have any idea how good e-mount glass is on sony bodies. bigger. Nikon never had much innovation or ground shaking releases when the camera market was at its peak. Nikon Z7, Nikon 14-30mm at 14mm at f/11, 104 second time exposure, Perfectly Clear v3.7 "landscapes" mode. You have sensors all over the entire frame! Top of a Fence Post, Happy Isles, Yosemite Valley, October 2018, 12:26 P.M. Nikon Z7, Nikon 24-70mm f/4 Z at 30mm, f/6.3 hand-held at 1/30 at Auto ISO 400, Perfectly Clear v3.6. I have a D500 whose screen died. Guess what that ain't happening anytime soon because it would cost a lot to develop and the price would be very high. - You either do not know the cam, or you do not know what you are talking about, or your Nikon-polarized shades do not let you see things for what they are. If "tzurlis" thinks the Z series has a "viewfinder resolution issue" wait until he finds out about the Sony a7c, where the EVF really is lacking. I actually bought a D5300 as a backup camera, and it's clearly superior to its successors. The Nikon Z7 II is a not a completely new camera, instead building on the strong foundations of the original Z7 model from 2018. There is some, but probably still trails the D850 a tad. Too much info on the live view, all I want is a completely clean representation of the photo I'm about to take. And you can expect the same experience from the Z7 II: a deep, very comfortable grip, well-placed buttons and control dials, an easily readable top display and a satisfyingly clicky mode dial. Best Mid-Range Full Frame Mirrorless: Canon R6, Sony a7 III, Nikon Z6 II, Panasonic S5. Btw, speaking about top quality glass, I was surprised to find out that the 50mm f1.2 RF is in fact a T1.5 lens. Nikon Z7 flipping 3.2" LCD, Z7 II is the same. Antique Firefighting Gear, 2:51 P.M. Nikon Z7, Nikon 24-70mm f/4 Z at 24mm, f/8 hand-held at 1/8 at Auto ISO 200, Perfectly Clear v3.6. Tzurlis, gosh there is so much hate and frustration in speaking out of you, relax, drink a tea and reevaluate the situation: "come on... if i have to switch lenses, ill get a free trouble sony!!!" But Sony is now suffering from some structural limitations with their lens mount and it makes it harder for them to come up with competitive glass. Needless to say, those images were completely unusable anyway. Then add seamless support for EF lenses and you outmatch any system. The FTZ is a dud for those of us with a large collection of Nikon lenses because it only works (autofocuses or indexes properly) with about half of them. Remember that shot wide-open at f/4 that only some things are in focus. Optional extra-cost 12-bit ProRes video RAW upgrade. The Z7 is already much better than the D850 on several aspects:- accuracy - consistency, especially shooting wide open with portrait lenses- eye AF, Where the Z7 did lack was in:- AF control UI but it was significantly improved with firmware 3- tracking abilities - very low light, Where they were roughly equal was:- raw focusing speed. Entroplus, as someone with. Superior Nikon color rendition. I have an entire page on what works and doesn't work with Nikon's FTZ adapter, which lets Nikon's F-Mount lenses mount on a Z camera. Nikon has just announced the Z7 II, the second iteration of its high-resolution full-frame mirrorless camera. includes controls for portrait-orientation shooting. New AF modes have been added and are accessible in the main and 'i' menus. Get the excellent Nikon Z 24-70mm f/4 S for day-to-day use. Crud-resistant fluorine-coated finder eyepiece. Function over form. In the end, the manufacture has to be honest and figure out what people will pay and will that be enough to pay for everything needed to make that camera. Doesn't matter the camera brand will make you a better photographer. - What issues are you talking about?- F mount lenses work great on Z bodies, already the Z6/Z7 and there is no doubt that it's going to work even better on the Z6II/Z7II- If there is one thing Nikon is great at is to understate the value of their cameras...- There is no viewfinder resolution issue, the viewfinder of the Z7 was already better than then 5.6 pixel viewfinder of the a7rIV. Balanced fill-flash in matrix, center-weighted, and highlight-weighted metering modes. Not a great thing, it should bring no one joy, but spreadsheets don't lie. There is in fact less than 1/2 stop more lens reaching the sensor compared to the Nikon. The very fact that you think I could be stupid enough to claim ownership of an a9II without actually owning one says a lot about your system of values. "I would wager that only a small population of pros that really need dual card slots or a battery grip might consider it.". With a 1.8x squeeze, the lens produces a more pronounced anamorphic effect than the 1.33x lenses offered by Sirui, albeit at a much higher cost. Even if they squeeze by, their plans are to make their imaging division profitable; given their massive losses that can only mean massive cuts. GPS in the Z7II would have led me to upgrade. 1) Some people love to run with the mob, so much easier than thinking. But the OP said he was moving from Nikon to Sony for spurious, nonsensical reasons. The Z7 II should be very similar, just faster. The Canon EOS R5 and the Nikon Z7 II are two enthusiast cameras that were revealed to the public, respectively, in July 2020 and October 2020. Raw also may be saved at MEDIUM or SMALL resolutions, but at only 12-bit lossless compressed. I'd strongly suggest upgrading to the Canon EOS R system and not throwing any more money into Nikon. The flash exposure takes precedence over ambient light. But why not used an a9II if you need best in class e-shutter? The Z7 II should be the same. I never thought the lack of dual slots was a problem that needed fixing. i-TTL flash control, radio-controlled Advanced Wireless Lighting, optical Advanced Wireless Lighting, modeling illumination, FV lock, Color Information Communication, Auto FP High-Speed Sync and unified flash control. Not always. The processing power from dual EXPEED 6 processors along with an improved buffer enable continuous shooting at up to 10 frames per second. Manual-focus lenses work much better on any FX DSLR than on the FTZ. I'm inclined to wait until the 2021 Tokyo Olympics or whenever they release a proper Z8 or other high-end model, and I suspect D850 users will as well. DPR comments are like a childish pantomime most of the time. Now under $4,000 with the Spring Sales, the Fujifilm GFX 50R is awesome. "The arrival of a new battery grip with duplicate controls (!) fwiw, a number of tests have made it clear that nikon brand z-mount glass has overall better p.q. Top OLED Display specifications top. No reason to cut the price because of the nikon z2 cameras, which aren't as feature rich as the canons. (I'm still working on its detailed review. It costs a lot to join some clubs and a lot to change clubs in those cases. Improved processing, greater versatility, but familiar in design, the Nikon Z 7II takes everything that was great from the original and ups its capabilities even more. Z7 II has the same sensor as the Z7 shown here. This is a major, truly major difference. @whitelens, I happen to know @bernardlang’s flickr page. Sony and Canon grips are same size and price. I would not take the 1DXIII in exchange with it. bigger. whatever problems you are having with color are not a camera issue. There is a cost to make the camera and a price they must charge to pay for everything. I’ve made a lot of portraits with my D850 & Z7. The Laowa 15mm F4.5 Zero-D Shift lens lets you shift perspective without moving the camera, correct for converging lines and more. 14-bit) and highest frame rate at the same time with any camera. You have to shield it from the sun to read it. These are all shot on my 2018 Z7, which uses the same sensor as this new Z7 II, as BASIC ★ JPGs; no RAW files, NORMAL or FINE JPGs were used or needed. @bernardlangyour constant criticism toward the R5 seems mostly based on personal bias, bloating specification limitations which are not such a big deal in practical use (as long as you know them and know how to work around them). Chris and Jordan from DPReview TV also shot a gallery with the lens, but on Panasonic bodies. Uses standard WT-7/A/B/C wireless transmitters. Sonys have awful menu systems and controls! That has been my personal choice. Nikon has been relying on Fujitsu arm chips fof many years and I guess they want to continue to use Fujitsu. No such issues with an EVF, which can be moved back a few millimeters if needed to allow for any extra body thickness from a dual-tilt screen mechanism. This 100% all-content, junk-free website's biggest source of support is when you use those or any of these links to my personally approved sources I've used myself for way over 100 combined years when you get anything, regardless of the country in which you live. As the name implies, this is a refinement rather than a reimagining; so while the updates may not knock your socks off, we really enjoyed the original Z7 and this new model builds on an already successful formula. California Desert Home, 22 June 2019, 8:50-8:52 PM. It's OK but it's just not as fluid as having GPS build in that you can just activate in a menu and be done. bigger or camera-original © file. 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